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	<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Punk&#8217;d in the Data Center by Sunshine Mugrabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunshine Mugrabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:17:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent--looking forward to seeing where you go with these!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent&#8211;looking forward to seeing where you go with these!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Punk&#8217;d in the Data Center by Scott Tokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Tokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are more to come! Stay tuned!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are more to come! Stay tuned!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Databases - Compression Targets? by Kirk Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kirk Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at storwize. They can and do compress Oracle databases with NO application or storage system changes (subject to the condition that the database be NAS accessible.) And they do it with very good performance. As pointed out above what "good" needs to be is shop and DB/application dependent but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at storwize. They can and do compress Oracle databases with NO application or storage system changes (subject to the condition that the database be NAS accessible.) And they do it with very good performance. As pointed out above what &#8220;good&#8221; needs to be is shop and DB/application dependent but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Databases - Compression Targets? by David Vellante</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Vellante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 00:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carter...your blogs got me thinking about data warehouse use cases and I reached out to some people at Oracle to see what they could add. They turned me on to some interesting examples of columnar compression (Exadata). Here's a decent overview:
http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/db/exadata/pdf/ehcc_twp.pdf

I've also looked into Vertica which looks to be a nice solution and I'm sure there are others. 

Thanks for the ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carter&#8230;your blogs got me thinking about data warehouse use cases and I reached out to some people at Oracle to see what they could add. They turned me on to some interesting examples of columnar compression (Exadata). Here&#8217;s a decent overview:<br />
<a href="http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/db/exadata/pdf/ehcc_twp.pdf" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.oracle.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/bi/db/exadata/pdf/ehcc_twp.pdf</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also looked into Vertica which looks to be a nice solution and I&#8217;m sure there are others. </p>
<p>Thanks for the ideas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Storage Industry Lags Behind Advances in Compression by David Vellante</title>
		<link>http://onlinestorageoptimization.com/index.php/storage-industry-lags-behind-advances-in-compression/comment-page-1/#comment-3350</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vellante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 17:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another question and a comment Carter if I may...

I agree with your comments on a production database but what % of an organization's database storage would you consider the ‘family jewels’ vs. copies of the database for things like decision support/data warehousing, snapshots, and other copies/clones for recovery purposes?  

If I can compress those supporting copies down 50-80%...why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another question and a comment Carter if I may&#8230;</p>
<p>I agree with your comments on a production database but what % of an organization&#8217;s database storage would you consider the ‘family jewels’ vs. copies of the database for things like decision support/data warehousing, snapshots, and other copies/clones for recovery purposes?  </p>
<p>If I can compress those supporting copies down 50-80%&#8230;why not?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Storage Industry Lags Behind Advances in Compression by Carter George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carter George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, and thanks Dave for the clarification there. I didn't mean to say that generic compression has no benefit for customers today, as long as they have a lot of text files for example. I did mean though that generic compression has little effect on the modern pre-compressed data types (e.g. Office 2007 docs) that own an increasing share of our customers' storage today. 

The other data set where generic compression is valid is on most databases, which really still are essentially sparse alphanumeric data for the most part. The thing is, databases are also the least likely place for customers to implement compression, because this is the one area where they are least likely to trade off any performance for space savings. Companies like Storewize have very fast generic compression, and that would be a good fit for databases, but it’s not clear to me that customers are embracing compression for that, the most conservative area in the data center.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, and thanks Dave for the clarification there. I didn&#8217;t mean to say that generic compression has no benefit for customers today, as long as they have a lot of text files for example. I did mean though that generic compression has little effect on the modern pre-compressed data types (e.g. Office 2007 docs) that own an increasing share of our customers&#8217; storage today. </p>
<p>The other data set where generic compression is valid is on most databases, which really still are essentially sparse alphanumeric data for the most part. The thing is, databases are also the least likely place for customers to implement compression, because this is the one area where they are least likely to trade off any performance for space savings. Companies like Storewize have very fast generic compression, and that would be a good fit for databases, but it’s not clear to me that customers are embracing compression for that, the most conservative area in the data center.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Storage Industry Lags Behind Advances in Compression by David Vellante</title>
		<link>http://onlinestorageoptimization.com/index.php/storage-industry-lags-behind-advances-in-compression/comment-page-1/#comment-3330</link>
		<dc:creator>David Vellante</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Carter. It IS a shame that most storage products haven't implemented some type of compression. While nothing comes for free this innovation is long overdue. Storage salespeople are afraid of compression because they think they'll sell less storage. 

I believe they're wrong because storage is an elastic market. Drop the price and you'll sell more. 

Not sure why you make this statement. 

"For compression to have any meaningful impact on today’s data sets, you have to have file type aware recompression."

Seems to me there are other use cases where compression could have a meaningful impact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Carter. It IS a shame that most storage products haven&#8217;t implemented some type of compression. While nothing comes for free this innovation is long overdue. Storage salespeople are afraid of compression because they think they&#8217;ll sell less storage. </p>
<p>I believe they&#8217;re wrong because storage is an elastic market. Drop the price and you&#8217;ll sell more. </p>
<p>Not sure why you make this statement. </p>
<p>&#8220;For compression to have any meaningful impact on today’s data sets, you have to have file type aware recompression.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seems to me there are other use cases where compression could have a meaningful impact.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going Social - EMC stands tall by The TechnoGirlTalk podcast is up! &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</title>
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		<dc:creator>The TechnoGirlTalk podcast is up! &#124; Adventures in Corporate Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up on an evolution story of sorts that was told by the EMC folks from the two podcasts, you can read her thoughts here.  addthis_url = [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Gartner Gobbles up Burton Group - Good or Bad Sign? by Don MacVittie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don MacVittie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great blog, and I'd love to see someone fill the gap. I know Current Analysis was working a consumer end for a while, but I think that's gone away. Where there is weakness, hopefully some great analyst firm sees an opportunity :-)

Don.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great blog, and I&#8217;d love to see someone fill the gap. I know Current Analysis was working a consumer end for a while, but I think that&#8217;s gone away. Where there is weakness, hopefully some great analyst firm sees an opportunity <img src='http://onlinestorageoptimization.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Don.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Drobo Mania by Considering DroboElite BeyondRaid iSCSI Storage For VMware Environments &#124; VM /ETC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Considering DroboElite BeyondRaid iSCSI Storage For VMware Environments &#124; VM /ETC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the GetsaltIT Tech Field Day (TFD) schedule a few weeks ago,</description>
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